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Do you think that the hardest part is the outline or the writing? Should a team of ghost writers be employed as a second stage follow up? What kind of work would we get out of this? It's my impression that anytime I try to tackle a big idea in a short amount of time, I end up with something shallow. The key, for me, for making an incisive contribution is iteration and reflection. Without that all we get are ... well ... the kinds of books ghost written for celebrities now. Methinks this might work far better for shorter pieces (or maybe even chapters) than whole books. Then again, I've never been published, so what do I know?

So, I feel like a Taxi Driver: "You talkin' to me? You talkin'...to me?" Wow. What a great idea, Grant.

Ennis, You have struck on a way to talk about the difference between BE and the ghost writers: that the former are not working with people because they are famous but because they are interesting (rarely, the same thing). So it can't be a matter of taking dictation and artful arrangement. BE should be staffed by people who a) begin with formidable owers of "book recognition" and b) have the advantage of a little distance. I am guite sure I have a couple of books in me that I cannot see as such. (Literary stowaways, as it were.) BE editors (BEditors?) can see the forest because they don't really know the trees. Thanks, Grant

Tom, I know you are working on something, but clearly you have gifts of conceptualization and writing that make BE quite unnecessary! Thanks, Grant

It's a variation on the continuum of work done by lots of us here to extract the essentials of a story, dress it in shining raiment, and send it on a mission.

A ghost-writing&editing follow-up on the extraction, or an associated shape&theme-teaming, as per Ennis, is probably called for. Where "extraction" is really useful is concept > direction/organization > and bad-rough-draft onto paper, brainstorm-weird / semi-literate sentence by sentence, or at least on the level of paragraph topic-sentences. (Writing isn't so much ideas, as words in a sequence. Writing-as-ideas is where the paralysis lurks.)

Like Tom, I'm poised for this! My resume includes a 24-hour emergency extraction/construction of a third-year paper at Harvard Law School for/with a classmate threatened with postponed graduation. Pen in hand, I'm a living JustDoIt logo (digital animation extra).

My current process obsession is the extreme pragmatic usefulness of the Myers Briggs. Some thought from that realm should go into the teaming, and the match with the extractee. Teamwork for this would ideally be highly compatible, ecstatically high-energy and seamless, not collapse into internecine differences, arguments, and premature good taste.

Happily, premature good taste is never a problem at our shop.

My goodness, this is brilliant.

I wonder if there is a communal version that could be formed, I guess online, more than a typical forum to pose queries and get encouragment, but with an interface that moves through some specific stages, brings all the online interfaces needed to get it, and establishes community membership types (guru, mentor, leader, facilitator, etc.) - you could pay into the system to get services, or you could perform other services to get credit.

I could probably start by helping the extraction process for others, and then throw myself into it when I had some credit.

God knows I need something like this (either version).

Take all the "how to get an agent" "how to get published" stuff OUT of the equation and make it about getting a book WRITTEN.

I love it. This got me very excited.

I began my management consulting life running bid teams for large telecoms licence applications. Here you had, oh, between 10 and 100 "authors", people with technical expertise necessary for the bid document (telecom engineers, marketers, lawyers, regulatory experts, financial guys, etc). Most of these folks have a story, sometimes a very good one, but almost none of them can write to save their life (the lawyers were the exception).

Our job was to extract their stories, make the stories cohere, dress them in spin appropriate to the culture of the country, match the stories + spin to what the government evaluators were looking for, add diagrams, print the whole goddam thing, and hand it in before the deadline. (No reason for being early in most places, since you did not want your bid to leak to competitors, nor run the risk of late changes to the requirements. Handing in close to the deadline, though, led to some hair-raising near-misses due to late planes, computer viruses, etc.)

Instead of a weekend, we usually had longer -- between 1 and 6 months. The longest bid I worked on was 7,000 pages long (times 20 copies). It was sheer hell!!! I loved it!


"The longer it takes, the longer it takes."

Too true. I wrote about half of my 178-page dissertation over 5 months, and the other half over about 3 weeks. Guess which half I did first?

Sorta off topic, but thought Grant you'd want to know about https://www.indieflix.com/ssl/Filmmaker/HowItWorks.aspx which is a Print-on-Demand (so to speak) service for filmmakers. Long tail, indeed!

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